John Maddison, EVP of Products, and CMO at Fortinet talks with John Furrier for a CUBEConversation from theCUBE studio in Palo Alto, CA. We're hearing a lot about SASE which is a secure access network adjuncts these zero trust network access.What does that all mean now these days?What is this SASE? Well, there's definitely a lot of hype around the word SASE, which is the security of the edge.For us, actually, it confirms a strategy that we've had since the beginning of the company in two important concepts.One is the coming together of networking and security.We refer to it as security-driven networking.And we've been doing it using ASICs and appliances for a long time.We're now going to expand it to cloud, as well.So that's one concept, again bringing together networking and security or converging them, in a way.And then the second concept is more around a platform approach.So if you look at the definition of SASE it includes SDWAN.It includes web gateway as a service zero trust, CASB, WAF, et cetera.And so bringing those together in a platform approach we refer to it as a fabric.So we're actually really happy about those two concepts coming together.Maybe the name itself could be different, but definitely the concepts and the technologies play really well to our strategy. Yeah, it's SASE, S-A-S-E not two As, not like SaaS software as a service which everyone knows as cloud. Yeah.I tried using the full name but I've reverted back to SASE again, so. Yeah, short and SASE, keep it short and sweet.. COVID has kind of accelerated the future for everybody and we've been kind of riffing on Twitter and throughout the industry I've been calling it the big IoT experiment because the disruption of COVID has forced everyone to work at home.So the notion of work changes.Workplace is now home.Workforce, the people how their interaction with the networks workloads, workflows, all changing.New expectations, new experiences.This is the real deal and the edge is where the action is.That's the big, new, obvious architectural highlight here. Yeah, so we talked last time,I think we were just beginning this work from home element but we're still here.And I think what it says is that what it's forced is that enterprises need to look at their edges and they're increasing.So we always, the WAN edge was a new one over the last two years as we introduced SDWAN.They had a data center edge.Now they had an endpoint edge.Now you have a home edge.And so you've got to apply security there's a cloud edge, as well. The attack vectors are predominantly still actually a lot of phishing but then if you're on the network that attack vector's very important.So for us and we did an acquisition last week of Opaq Networks because that gave us an additional consumption model and additional form factor.So if somebody's going from the home straight into the cloud or they're peering off branching off an SDWAN connection straight into the cloud we can now apply that cloud edge security through our SASE capabilities.And so, again, the ability to have security at all these edges has become very important going forward.So for us, now we've got appliances.We've got virtual machines.We've got cloud delivery.And this is becoming very important to customers. What is the security component of the work at home? You mentioned earlier there's more networks and companies are looking to kind of up level the capabilities.Can you give an example and take us through what that looks like and what companies are thinking about?Because it's not just here's some extra money for your home bandwidth.People are working there so it's got to be industrial strength edge now.It's not just temporary.And their kids are home, too.So you got, they're gaming, they're watching Netflix people are Zooming and doing WebExes all day long. Yeah. It's a work environment. So it can be as simple as putting a zero trust network access agent on thereand doing some security locally and then going back through a proxy.We believe, actually, that it can be even better than that that you can apply mini enterprise security in your house through a next gen firewall give high availability through SDWAN then expand out the secure access and switching and endpoints.And we can do that today.I think what's going to be key going forward is as you're dealing as IT teams have to deal with more of a consumer approach remotely in the homes we're going to have to simplify the way things get set up such that you can easily separate out maybe home usage from corporate enterprise users.So that will be something we'll be working on over the next 18 months.