Larry Pesce, a veteran in cybersecurity, discusses artificial intelligence and its transformative impact at RSAC 2025.
In this episode of theCUBE, Dave Vellante sits down with Larry Pesce, a multifaceted cybersecurity expert affiliated with Finite State, a leading cybersecurity firm. Pesce's experience spans decades, covering penetration testing, Internet of Things (IoT) security and thought leadership. The discussion takes place at the prestigious RSAC 2025 event, bringing attention to emerging trends and tools, particularly artificial intelligence, that are shaping the industry.
Pesce, known for their extensive background in penetration testing and the IoT space, shares insights on the integration of AI in cybersecurity. They talk about their role with Finite State and collaborations with CyberRisk Alliance on media and technology projects. Hosted by Dave Vellante from theCUBE Research, the session sheds light on Pesce's experiences, including observations at RSAC over the years.
The conversation highlights AI's growing presence, emphasizing its role as a force multiplier. According to Pesce, companies such as Finite State leverage AI to enhance efficiency significantly, completing up to 80% of the workload, yet leaving room for human oversight. The discussion also touches on concerns related to AI, from job impacts to ethical considerations, and compares it with traditional sources such as Wikipedia.
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Larry Pesce, Finite State
Larry Pesce, a veteran in cybersecurity, discusses artificial intelligence and its transformative impact at RSAC 2025.
In this episode of theCUBE, Dave Vellante sits down with Larry Pesce, a multifaceted cybersecurity expert affiliated with Finite State, a leading cybersecurity firm. Pesce's experience spans decades, covering penetration testing, Internet of Things (IoT) security and thought leadership. The discussion takes place at the prestigious RSAC 2025 event, bringing attention to emerging trends and tools, particularly artificial intelligence, that are shaping the industry.
Pesce, known for their extensive background in penetration testing and the IoT space, shares insights on the integration of AI in cybersecurity. They talk about their role with Finite State and collaborations with CyberRisk Alliance on media and technology projects. Hosted by Dave Vellante from theCUBE Research, the session sheds light on Pesce's experiences, including observations at RSAC over the years.
The conversation highlights AI's growing presence, emphasizing its role as a force multiplier. According to Pesce, companies such as Finite State leverage AI to enhance efficiency significantly, completing up to 80% of the workload, yet leaving room for human oversight. The discussion also touches on concerns related to AI, from job impacts to ethical considerations, and compares it with traditional sources such as Wikipedia.
In this episode of theCUBE, Dave Vellante sits down with Larry Pesce, a multifaceted cybersecurity expert affiliated with Finite State, a leading cybersecurity firm. Pesce's experience spans decades, covering penetration testing, Internet of Things (IoT) security and thought leadership. The discussion takes place at the prestigious RSAC 2025 event, bringing attention to emerging trends and tools, particularly artificial intelligence, that are shaping the industry.
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>> Hi, everybody. Welcome to theCUBE at Sundown. This is Dave Vellante. And we're wrapping up. We're getting thrown out of this room. I'm here with... Who are you?>> Larry Pesce.>> Larry Pesce. Nice to meet you.>> Dave, nice to meet you.>> How are you doing, man?>> We are neighbors over in Broadcast Alley. So I do some work with CyberRisk Alliance for Paul's Security Weekly.>> Oh, very cool. So are you an analyst? A journalist? An influencer? A technologist? All of the above?>> All of the above.>> Great.>> All of the above. Yeah, so I've spent a lot of->> So tell me your story.>> So I spent 15, almost 20 years doing pen testing, a lot of that in the IoT space, and then started to move into some thought leadership and some policy work at Finite State, and we've done that podcast from a technologist side and a media side for close to 20 years. We're going into year number 20 now. So a little bit of everything.>> So how many RSAs have you been to? RSAC, sorry. RSAC, just one. How many RSAs?>> Yeah. This is actually my fourth. After all those years, this is only my fourth. And one of them was many years ago. This is third year in a row.>> How has it changed? What are your observations?>> There's been a lot of ancillary type of activities that have been added, like the sandbox and the new interventions type of stuff, that I've seen from the recent three years as to some of the previous years.>> And it's only day one, but what are you hearing? What's the conversation like over in Broadcast Alley?>> It's been good. I mean->> What's the big trends?>> AI, of course. I mean, everybody->> What about AI though?>> I think if you don't have AI in your product, you're probably missing out. We use AI at Finite State. We're encouraged to use AI largely because it is such a force multiplier. You get 80% of your work done with AI, and sure, you're going to have to still spend some time reviewing either code, or language, or art, you name it, but to get 80% of your work done and be more efficient, that's amazing.>> I mean, I don't know if the last three years are any indication, but I mean, I touched AI when AI was embedded in the product, like we had some AI machine learning in our products and, okay, I used them, but now I use AI every day many, many times a day.>> Absolutely.>> And I was talking to somebody the other day. They were saying, "Well, but it's going to affect jobs," and I'm like, "Well, I don't know if these first three years are any indication, but all I know is I got way more to do now because of AI. It's like I can write so much more, I can do so much more, I can process so many more emails. I'm just getting swamped.">> You're doing more, but you're being more efficient at it at the same time.>> But I've got this backlog of stuff now. I mean, I take a transcript, I run it through AI, and it's like, wow, now I've got like 10 blogs that I could write about these video interviews that we do. And of course you got to go edit them. I'm not just going to publish it without putting my fingerprints on it. I suppose I could do that, but it's not as good.>> No, it's not. I know.>> Will the AI be as good someday?>> I don't know if it'll be as good. I think we're still going to be at that 80 to 90% of still having to do some review. And you wouldn't want, to take from Back to the Future, you wouldn't want to turn your homework into someone else's handwriting, right? So->> Exactly.... >> you've always got to do the review.>> I mean, ethically you wouldn't want to do that.>> Right, right.>> But it's probably happening all over the place.>> Yep, absolutely.>> Okay. And there's probably AI to tell if it's AI.>> Oh, definitely, definitely. So in the schools, they're using AI to determine whether the students wrote their papers with AI.>> You know, it's funny, maybe probably 20 years ago it was a finger wagging about, "Don't use Wikipedia.">> Yes, yes. I still get that finger wagging, like, "Wikipedia is not a source of truth because anybody can edit it.">> Wikipedia is pretty good though.>> I agree, I agree, and they->> Especially for math and science. I found it's quite good for math and science.>> Absolutely, absolutely. Because folks don't mess with that stuff. They mess with everything else.>> Sometimes it's better than AI for math and science.>> Well, now they just need to train AI with Wikipedia and math and science. Not saying that they don't. They probably do. So->> All right, so we're getting the high sign. We got to go. Thanks so much for coming on theCUBE.>> Thank you, sir.>> It was a pleasure to meet you.>> Thanks you, sir.>> All right, that wraps it up here for theCUBE at Sundown here at RSAC, day one with OpenPolicy, NYSC Wired, and theCUBE. Thanks for watching. And Anishin as well. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for watching.
