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Idan Gour, Astrix Security

Dave Vellante

Co-Founder & Co-CEO SiliconANGLE Media, Inc.

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Idan Gour

Co-Founder & CTO Astrix Security

In this insightful discussion, Idan Gour, Co-founder and Chief Technology Officer of Astrix, joins theCUBE hosts at the NYSE Wired event during RSAC 2025. With an extensive background in security, Gour sheds light on the evolving landscapes of API-based access and agent-based security, highlighting current industry challenges and the transformative impact of AI technologies.

Gour shares their journey since founding Astrix four years ago, growing the company to address pressing security issues identified by over 150 industry professionals. With the re... Read more

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Dave Vellante

>> Hi, everybody. Welcome back to RSAC 2025. You're watching theCUBE's coverage, theCUBE after dark. I'm here with Idan Gour, Co-Founder and CTO of Astrix. Welcome.

Idan Gour

>> Thank you. Nice to see you. Thank you.

Dave Vellante

>> Tell me about Astrix. Why did you start the company?

Idan Gour

>> About four years ago, we interviewed almost 150 security professionals and leaders asking them about their biggest problem at that time, and they were talking about API-based access, so the access of applications to other applications. It was an important problem back then. It became much more important in the last year with AI technologies that are starting to just accelerate our businesses around the world. And that's why we are trying to solve this challenge.

Dave Vellante

>> So you're all about agents and agent security.

Idan Gour

>> Now it's a big part of what we're doing, yes.

Dave Vellante

>> Okay. Was that a pivot or is that-

Idan Gour

>> It was a transformation.

Dave Vellante

>> You're a new company, right? Relatively new.

Idan Gour

>> Yeah, We are in business in the last four years. We just closed our series B. -

Dave Vellante

>> Okay. So you're not like a seed startup?

Idan Gour

>> No, no, no.

Dave Vellante

>> But still, you're not like-

Idan Gour

>> We're not a legacy player.

Dave Vellante

>> Right. And so agents come in. So what are you doing around helping to shape the future of agentic and agent-based security?

Idan Gour

>> That's a great question. We feel that we live in extraordinary days, right, when there's so much technology. But this technology, in order to be effective, it needs to have context. It needs to understand the resources, it needs to use our data. What we do is that we'll enable organizations to allow these agents to have access to the data. We help them to build the identity infrastructure. We help them to recognize what are the opportunities for their agents to have more access to more data, but in a secure way. Part of the problems that we have in general across different organizations around the world is that it was never a thought. It was always an afterthought. And that's why security didn't scale up. We're trying to change that when we have this opportunity today.

Dave Vellante

>> So the problem I always have when I hear about agents and agentic, first of all, there's a lot of agent washing, as you know, but it comes back to a data problem. If you don't have good data, you're not going to have good AI, then you're not going to have good agents. You're not going to be able to govern them or trust them. So I always go back to the data. As a technologist, is that a viable premise? And how do you solve that problem?

Idan Gour

>> Yeah, so first of all, you do need to have good data. If your data is not good, you are going to have a problem. But on the other side, if you don't provide the access to a good data that you may have, if you are not trying to understand how does the agent is working against that data, what type of actions do you allow the agent to do, right? It's not anymore just a data problem, you want them to act on your behalf, do things for you or for the organization that you are. You need to try to find a way to, on one side, to enable the access, but on the other side to keep it in tight control, because otherwise there is really no trust. You wouldn't trust a new employee that was just joined your company, giving access to everything that you have.

Dave Vellante

>> You'd micromanage that employee, you wouldn't let them out of your sight, right?

Idan Gour

>> Exactly. And that's exactly the opposite in comparison to an autonomous agent. And that's what we're trying to achieve.

Dave Vellante

>> Okay. So when you see a company like Salesforce, for instance, that has a data cloud, they have their own little world. And they secure that world, I presume, use cloud, good security. Is that a problem that you're not trying to solve? You're trying to solve the other areas that folks aren't doing a good job? Or can you help with Salesforce or Workday or ServiceNow or Palantir, all these companies that are building agents within their own stovepipes?

Idan Gour

>> Yeah. So when you as a customer come and want to adopt Agentforce, let's say from Salesforce, or you want to enjoy the new technologies from ServiceNow, you need to give these agents access to your data, to your systems. That's what we're trying to enable. We want to enable the onboarding of these types of agents that these companies bring.

Dave Vellante

>> Okay. Looking ahead, how do you see the non-human identity security evolving as AI and agents sort of accelerate?

Idan Gour

>> Yeah, so the way that these agents have access to our data is by non-human identities. These are the service accounts and the API keys and everything that we allow to provide application access to different other applications. What we see is that because we would like to have the agents more access, we're just going to have more non-human identities. There will be more things that we want to monitor, more things that we want to understand how they behave, more things that we would maybe want to add a little bit more breaks to them, or just audit them in a different way for compliance reasons. Because they are, just like our workforce, they are part of the stack that do things in our organization. And that's how it's going to accelerate it.

Dave Vellante

>> Well, listen, thanks so much for coming to theCUBE.

Idan Gour

>> Thank you.

Dave Vellante

>> And congratulations on starting the company and best of luck.

Idan Gour

>> Thank you so much.

Dave Vellante

>> All right. And thank you for watching. Keep it right there. More action from theCUBE after dark at the Embarcadero. You're watching theCUBE at RSAC 2025. We'll be right back.