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Savannah Peterson

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Rob Strechay

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TheCUBE analysis: Cloud-native infrastructure reshapes the future of scalable, AI-driven environments

Cloud-native infrastructure is rapidly changing as companies seek to streamline, scale and secure their digital environments.As modern technology increasingly depends on platform engineering and artificial intelligence-driven solutions, a new balance is emerging between traditional DevOps practices and the unique demands of platform engineering. Both approaches are now competing to solve complex challenges in cloud-native and Kubernetes-focused ecosystems, driving the industry toward more integrated, scalable and accessible solutions

play_circle_outline Platform engineering, scale, and productionalization of Kubernetes infrastructure.

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Keynote Analysis

Savannah Peterson

Principal Analyst & Host SiliconANGLE Media, Inc.

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Rob Strechay

Dir./Principal Analyst & Host theCUBE Research

HOST

KubeCon, CloudNativeCon 2024 North America in Salt Lake City focuses on platform engineering, security, and Kubernetes' 10-year anniversary. The event highlights industry leaders sharing insights and the vibrant community's collaboration. Topics include Kubernetes at scale, new projects in the Linux Foundation, and project health within the CNCF. Day two will feature discussions on data protection and cyber resilience. The event attracts a mix of corporations, startups, and contributors, emphasizing a holistic infrastructure landscape with a focus on scalabil... Read more

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Rob Strechay

>> Hello, and welcome back to KubeCon, CloudNativeCon 2024 North America, Salt Lake City, high altitude, achieving new heights and going on. We're here, opening day two. Super excited. We got a great lineup for you, but right now we're going to dig into some of the insights that we had from day one. I'm Rob Strechay, joined by Savannah Peterson, as always, my co-pilot in Kube. I think what's been really fun this week has been a lot of the community and I think we've seen a lot of people we know again and again -

Savannah Peterson

>> So many people. To your point, Rob, we could barely have lunch yesterday. We had so many friends coming to say hi.

Rob Strechay

>> It was awesome.

Savannah Peterson

>> It's great, by the way. Always say hi.

Rob Strechay

>> Yes. I always say hi too, although in the bathroom's a little weird.

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah.

Rob Strechay

>> That got a little weird yesterday, but that's okay. But I think the community is just so vibrant. Some of the things that were going on today, yesterday was really around platform engineering as part of Keynote. It was a big platform engineering day. We had Hen and Peter on after they were off the main stage, and they talked about how they're using Kubernetes at CoreWeave to scale out their AI infrastructure for being able to build a GPU CSP for the future, train large language models. What they're doing and how they were actually pulling it all together was really interesting and we got to dig in on that as well.

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah, no, and talk about a company that's had a lot of explosive growth lately. We've been talking big conversation about DevOps versus platform engineering, the healthy tension there. But I do feel there's this return to platform engineering. I'm not surprised they dedicated a full day to it. Today's theme being security also not a big surprise. And tomorrow's theme being the 10-year anniversary of Kubernetes, which we've really been celebrating all year long since Paris, which is pretty exciting and across a few other events. We had so many great guests. We had a couple awesome Red Hat segments yesterday. Nathan from Vulture did an awesome job, Luke at Nutanix. It's been really impressive. Betty is always a joy to have. Now she's over there leading the Heroku team too. It was great to say hello.

Rob Strechay

>> Yeah, with Betty on. And then we had, A.B. on. We had a number of other people. We had MinIO on. And I think what really struck me was, and there's been this really interesting undercurrent from yesterday, was, oh, Kubernetes is boring now. It's all solved. And then we had the opposite when we were talking to Hen and Peter, like yeah, it's still pretty complicated, especially, and I think the word is at scale. And I think when you start to go around, and I've gone around a little bit over the course of the day and this morning, a lot of people talking about how do you get to scale and how do you really productionalize all of this? And I think that was the key that I'm coming away from yesterday, and a lot of the people we had on. I know that'll be another theme. And like you said, we actually talked about some of the new projects that are in the Linux Foundation, like PyTorch, VLLM, which I loved when-

Savannah Peterson

>> Lots of new projects this particular KubeCon as well.

Rob Strechay

>> Yeah, again, when we talked about it, and I think it was Jeremy from Red Hat talked about it being really the new lamp stack. And that really hit home for me. In fact, I tweeted about that this morning. I think it makes a lot of sense all of these things and the foundation being CNCF is part of Linux Foundation coming together with those other projects as well.

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I want to sit on the community piece that you brought up. I know that's one of the big reasons you and I love this show so much. I fundamentally think some of the conversations that we have here are different and not just because of the subject matter and this being such a Kubernetes and cloud native focused event and celebrating the open source community, but just thinking about even having Arun on at the end of the show last night and getting the chance to talk about Movember, talking about self-care, men's mental health. I had Costas came up from Octopus in deployment this morning to tell me how much our deaf and hard of hearing working group storytelling really means both to that working group but to the larger community. And to have someone who is able come over and compliment our accessibility content really just hit home for me. And I think that's representative of how invested this community is in not just the tech. The tech is almost a side piece, a side dish to the main dish. And the main dish here is a community of people who want to build the best products, the most trusted products. And frankly, it's never been more important now than ever, but that culture of wanting to help and celebrate each other. We just had the community awards on the main stage here this morning. It's distinctly different here. I think this is the show I get the most hugs. And I am a hugger. Consensual hugs for the record, it's not something I'm uncomfortable with. But I think that's also a really interesting benchmark. And we also have, as you and I were just joking, and when you walked up to the set, not even joking, speaking factually about we have so many people we know coming on today.

Rob Strechay

>> Yes.

Savannah Peterson

>> It's basically a friendly reunion. It's brands we know. It's faces and thought leaders that the world knows in this space. We feel really lucky to be able to do that. But it's so nice. It's so nice learning from such smart and inspiring folks.

Rob Strechay

>> Right. And I think that's the thing is that we see a lot of things at a lot of different shows and kind of bringing what we see at those shows and then seeing how this infrastructure, this is, I would say, I'm going to go out on a limb and say, this is the largest infrastructure show now. Like bar none. I think when you start to look at-

Savannah Peterson

>> I think you're right, Rob.

Rob Strechay

>> Yeah. People come here to learn about it. In fact, my wife was on a call with one of her vendors and she's back in Boston at work, and she was on a Zoom call with them and the guy was here.

Savannah Peterson

>> Oh, that's awesome.

Rob Strechay

>> So she's like, I could have been in Salt Lake. So I think when you start-

Savannah Peterson

>> You got to bring her next time.

Rob Strechay

>> Well, we'll see. She likes Atlanta, so we'll see where we get to or London. But yeah, I think when you look at it, the community and this being such an infrastructure show, especially with the additions of Virt with KubeVirt, the Upstream with OpenShift Virt and what we talked about yesterday. And I think there's a lot of pieces coming together that really are straddling a lot of the different shows that used to be out there.

Savannah Peterson

>> Agreed.

Rob Strechay

>> And I think the big shows used to be reInvent, Google Next, Ignite is next week. You started to look at the cloud shows and they're more specialized now for those messaging. I think because this is such a community show, you get everybody. You get all of the... They're all here, the Intels, the AMDs.

Savannah Peterson

>> Oh yeah. IBM's right next to us here. Yeah, you've got the massive hyperscalers. You've got some of the largest companies on the planet here. Well, actually you do. I'm sure Nvidia's milling around in the house. And then you've also got some of the scrappiest, smallest, leanest startups, projects, contributors. And I love that you just brought that up, Rob, because I think it's an outstanding point. It's becoming this holistic full ecosystem play, which really is infrastructure. It's not just these kind of one-off projects that are... Or like Kubernetes, for example. It's a much more robust and mature ecosystem. And I think as a result, it changes the conversation and people do prioritize coming to shows like this. I was just thinking to myself, it seems like there's always a big theme every show, and I think right now it's actually doing all of this at scale is almost the theme. It's not necessarily one specific topic. You know what acronym I haven't heard at all this entire week? Wasm.

Rob Strechay

>> Yeah, they had a WasmCon Day.

Savannah Peterson

>> They had Wasm Day, but remember-

Rob Strechay

>> It's kind of taken a step back....

Savannah Peterson

>> when we were in Amsterdam, I believe, your first KubeCon with us, we were talking about Wasm a lot.

Rob Strechay

>> Yes.

Savannah Peterson

>> And it seemed like WebAssembly was going to be in the forefront, in the spotlight. We've got friends on those teams. It's not to put down that industry. I'm just talking about the share of voice. I quite literally have not heard that acronym.

Rob Strechay

>> Yeah, it's interesting you brought that up. And I think, to your point of things we've seen move up in maturity, I think that was part of what they were talking about. And today's keynote was Project Health and things of that nature. And I think there's still a lot that has to happen with them bringing together all of these different voices and getting enough healthy projects to graduation. And I think that's still a big theme and a big effort for the CNCF. We know from talking to Suda that they're in meetings all day today and-

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah. Yeah. The board's meeting today.

Rob Strechay

>> The board's meeting today. So I think there's some work to be done, but I think, like you said, their picture of the mountains on their shirt, the T-shirt about scaling-

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah, scaling new heights....

Rob Strechay

>> to new heights. It makes a lot of sense.

Savannah Peterson

>> I think you're absolutely right there. The theme is spot on. Nice job to Priyanka and the crew for coming up with that.

Rob Strechay

>> Yeah. So we have a whole bunch coming on from a whole bunch of different companies, from Aviatrix to Red Hat to MinIO, back to Google to another one with Red Hat, Pure and the Portworx folks. And then we have Dynatrace and Buff to kind of round things out today.

Savannah Peterson

>> We've got a really great-

Rob Strechay

>> We're got a really great lineup across all the different pieces of infrastructure from observability to infrastructure to AI, to a number of the different pieces. I'm just really excited for also the data protection and cyber resilience because you think about AI that needs that. So I'm really excited for today.

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah, I am too. And Rob, we're only, it's day two of three. I'm very excited for Friday as well. Looking forward to having so many... We've got CNCF coming back on. We've got more Salesforce friends and perhaps my favorite segment of the show, we have the deaf and hard of hearing working group coming back on, and I'm so excited to hear how much progress they will have made. They've now been out and about for a year and a half, making such strides. That working group continues to grow and do magical things. And I know, I saw that Malad and Rob gave a talk, and I just think it's going to be great to get to touch base and see how they're changing accessibility both at this conference, but of every conference and all the content around the world. So it's going to be a special couple of days left still.

Rob Strechay

>> I agree. Well, we'll leave it there. Thank you.

Savannah Peterson

>> It's a pleasure, Rob.

Rob Strechay

>> Let's get ready to rumble here. This is going to be a lot of fun.

Savannah Peterson

>> Are you ready?

Rob Strechay

>> I am ready.

Savannah Peterson

>> This is going to be great, Rob.

Rob Strechay

>> I think it's the altitude that's getting me going like that.

Savannah Peterson

>> I had the giggles last night, so who knows what's going to happen on set today, folks. You just buckle your seatbelts. It could be fun.

Rob Strechay

>> Stay tuned.

Savannah Peterson

>> Yeah.

Rob Strechay

>> And I want to thank you all for watching. Stay tuned. We're going to be right back with more exciting content from KubeCon, CloudNativeCon North America, Salt Lake City, new heights, and we're going up that mountain. Stay tuned.